tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post2268273745076800907..comments2024-02-27T05:42:03.370-08:00Comments on Reflections of Olde Swain: The Indian Creek Grist MillOlde Swainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08907065516770688746noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-45982832100431817352023-09-14T13:42:43.596-07:002023-09-14T13:42:43.596-07:00hy billy is kenhy billy is kenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-10223660440943702262020-11-27T07:57:11.505-08:002020-11-27T07:57:11.505-08:00I just came across your blog last night in respons...I just came across your blog last night in response to a question about the Oscar Shuler tombstone. I am enjoying learning the history of this area. As I was hiking it yesterday, I was wishing I knew more about the families that lived there. I actually stopped and looked at this exact area you described trying to imagine what there life was like so this is so providential. Richard Millshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17098151857025392672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-75179376747913114052019-06-23T16:32:09.229-07:002019-06-23T16:32:09.229-07:00Ray, my husband is the g grandson of Columbus Kitc...Ray, my husband is the g grandson of Columbus Kitchen, gg grandson of Alfred Washington Parris. I know Columbus Kitchin lived in Bryson city.<br />lianiti@aol.comSharon Shelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14492878581240023964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-28349226441631064522014-08-01T14:12:17.880-07:002014-08-01T14:12:17.880-07:00Hi, this is Ray Kitchen, you can get in touch with...Hi, this is Ray Kitchen, you can get in touch with me at raykitch8@gmail.com ThanksAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00249148383102226872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-82954026936619516172014-07-31T14:29:40.319-07:002014-07-31T14:29:40.319-07:00Hi, John c. Kitchen was my g-grandfather, I would ...Hi, John c. Kitchen was my g-grandfather, I would like to get in touch with someone who has more info on him and his family. My father Claude Kitchen was born in Bryson City. Can you suggest anyone who might know more about my family history? Thanks, Ray KitchenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-40202983810235154892014-01-19T12:50:50.240-08:002014-01-19T12:50:50.240-08:00Hi Ed, I'm a little late in getting back to yo...Hi Ed, I'm a little late in getting back to you! I do know Ron and Ellen, Scott and Mary, and Mary! Sue Prothero was the lady who sold us the house, and she and her husband had built it in the early 1990's. <br /><br />Interesting information on the Breedlove Clan from that area - there is an ancient home up there near the old boxwood farm that I'd like to write about. It's clearly not been lived in for many decades and is being reclaimed; I really want to know its story. Your story about 'Old Bill' is fascinating! <br /><br />I loved living there...such a very beautiful and peaceful spot.Olde Swainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08907065516770688746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-29883259068054787862014-01-04T20:20:52.389-08:002014-01-04T20:20:52.389-08:00I think I have been to your house. Sometime in the...I think I have been to your house. Sometime in the middle 90's I had to go to a house, situated as you describe, to get some documents notarized. I think it was when I sold some land to Ron Roman and Ellen Kilgannon. Do you know these people? Do you know Scott and Mary Danels? Kurt Doettger? <br />There was a rock house on the right passed the Posey place where John and Lela Breedlove lived (she was called Lela John to distinguish her from another Lela Breedlove who lived down the road a piece, Lela Bob. Lela Bob was married to Bob Breedlove. Lela Bob and Bob Breedlove had several children. John and Lela John never has any. When John died, some of the Winchester-Parton clan moved in with Lela and ended up with all their property. John was my grand uncle. Next up the creek has Robert and Florence Breedlove's place. I grew up around their children Curtis, Nevil, Ann, Cathy and the twins Jay and Faye. Robert died in 1957 so I don't remember him but I do remember hearing my folks talk about him. Florence stuck it out a while after Robert died but soon moved away to Haywood County. Curtis was in the Army and when he came home he went wild. He had a '57 Chevy that couldn't go straight ahead. It thought it had to straighten every curve. We would be walking the roads and hear him coming and knew to head for the high ground. Curtis died in 1969 in Vietman. <br />All of Licklog Creek used to belong to Nathan DeHart who came first from Rowan County NC then KY and Tn. The head of Licklog is where, I think, my great great grandfather had an orchard. "Old Bill" Dehart thought he was still a youngin, so he hid a servant girl in a wagon load of apples and "left the country" for Alabama. There he and Martha Tutherow married and raised a fine family, leaving Mary Ann, 4 sons and a daughter to fend for themselves. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-49375662288422119982014-01-04T14:07:28.899-08:002014-01-04T14:07:28.899-08:00Thanks so much for this information, Ed. You'...Thanks so much for this information, Ed. You've given me some items to investigate! I did not know about either mill, actually. I had a friend that grew up on that branch and spent some time up there but don't remember the mill - it may have been gone by the time I was there. However, I am going to check into it.<br /><br />Re: Licklog - we lived at, literally, the very end. Going up past the Posey home and continuing onto the gravel, one would pass the McCafferty home on the left and take a sharp left hand turn where the road to the old boxwood farm went to the right. We were at the very end of the road to the left, up a steep hill. We had a log home there.Olde Swainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08907065516770688746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-76238177306593093622014-01-03T11:01:41.291-08:002014-01-03T11:01:41.291-08:00Do you know about the mill that used to the mouth ...Do you know about the mill that used to the mouth of Painter Branch. I can remember seeing it in operation. I don't remember the stones turning but I remember that big wheel going around. There was a bridge over the creek and water would drip on you from the millrace overhead. I was told John Breedlove ran that mill years before. <br />Where did you live on Licklog?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-6869811788918950602014-01-03T09:00:58.236-08:002014-01-03T09:00:58.236-08:00If you are coming down Licklog you turn left at Hi...If you are coming down Licklog you turn left at Hightower Church and go across Hightower Gap. Then left up Wiggins Creek, left again at the next fork. The valley narrows down with barely room for the road and the creek. The grade increases sharply and there is a curve that bears left then sharply right again and the valley opens back up. Right in that curve there is a waterfall of sorts. I think the construction of the road and subsequent improvements has filled in at the bottom of the waterfall until now it is hardly noticeable. <br />That is where I think Grandpa's mill sat. I don't know if there was a pond above it but there is a flat swampy area above it that looks like it could have been a pond that had been filled in with sediment. <br />Just above the curve is where Luther and Pauline Sutton lived. Their descendants live there now. After you pass the Sutton Place, the rest of the land above there belonged, at one time, to my parents Fred and Thelma Ammons. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-37547109470225910262014-01-01T15:12:06.587-08:002014-01-01T15:12:06.587-08:00That's really interesting, Ed. Do you happen ...That's really interesting, Ed. Do you happen to know where on Wiggins Creek the mill was? I am somewhat familiar with the area, because I lived on Licklog in the late 90's. I've done a lot of exploring in the Needmore area and plan several posts on folks living there. Also, this week's post, which will come out in a day or so, will talk about a family living in the area.Olde Swainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08907065516770688746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-54861073016774642802013-12-29T17:23:47.368-08:002013-12-29T17:23:47.368-08:00Wendy, I am so glad you finally resurfaced. I hate...Wendy, I am so glad you finally resurfaced. I hated to hear about what has happened to your husband. If there is anything we can do to help, please let me know! My mother talked about her Daddy having a mill on Wiggins Creek. I am not so sure whether the mill was for cornmeal or what, because she also told me her daddy and Charlie DeHart had been known to fight a lot and make a little likker. She told me about a time when Charlie gave Grandpa's hogs a strychnine shot for cholera and killed every one of them. I suppose a fight ensued. Anyway there is a lot more to Old Swain County than what the park and the dam took over and someone, hopefully you, will take over now and tell our story, too.<br /><br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-5864115558668436312013-12-25T08:34:59.860-08:002013-12-25T08:34:59.860-08:00That is fascinating, Jackie. What decade(s) was i...That is fascinating, Jackie. What decade(s) was it that you were taking the corn to the mill? There were a few good-sized community mills still operating when the Fontana Reservoir was created in the early 1940's; I have wondered when they largely disappeared. A Merry Christmas to you and yours.Olde Swainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08907065516770688746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5591218908346224982.post-64492311525166661582013-12-24T13:32:58.712-08:002013-12-24T13:32:58.712-08:00I wondered what had happened to you. I was born i...I wondered what had happened to you. I was born in Graham County and grew up in the 'Overhill' of Monroe County TN. I spent about 1/4 of my childhood in Graham County. I remember taking corn and wheat to a mill in TN on a horse beginning when I was about 7-8 yrs old. I went with dad before that but at about 7-8 it became my job. I don't know the ratio but the miller did take his fee in meal or flour. I enjoy the mountains and especially the history.Jackie McClungnoreply@blogger.com